My current hate for eBay and Paypal :(
Mon. February 9, 2009Categories: Misc, Uncategorized
Tags: chargeback, dispute, ebay, paypal, rant
Im soooo frustrated right now I can die..lol.. I recently sold my beloved PS3 on ebay and got screwed big time.
I had the highly sought after 60GB (fully BWC, with all the fixins) and sold it on ebay for about 650 bucks. This was about 3 months ago, a nice lady in Las Vegas bought it and paid instantly! Couldn’t ask for a better transaction (or so I thought)
I shipped the PS3 (along with tons of games and an original copy of FFVII) and never heard back from her (assuming it was being played with and looked after)
Next thing I know, the unit shows up back at my front door. Being the nice guy I am, I contacted her right away and let her know. She was stoked it wasn’t lost since she said she “Began to worry”. The nice lady paid me again for shipping (30 bucks) and it was back on its way to Vegas with a small change in address (turns out she forgot to tell me to put Blvd. at the end of Rainbow Blvd.)
long story short(er) I woke up one day and did my normal email routine and had a lovely message from paypal saying that I had a charge back dispute “GREAT” I thought to myself sarcastically. Logged into my account with a lovely message letting me know my account was in negative amount, I knew it was bad. Just like that paypal took 650 bucks from me I didn’t even have in my account witch put me at -615 bucks (cause I DID I have 15 bucks..lol)
The claim was for a chargeback dispute, which means the payment was reported as fraudulent to the credit card company, then paypal pays the card company back (at your expense) and they call it good while you get fu**ed!
You can fight the process (which I have been doing for 3 months) and it takes up to 30 days for 1st part of the process and 75 days for the final decision.
During the first 30 days, paypal disputed in my favor (which is meaningless to me, cause I don’t get my money back) it just means they will officially fight for me to get the money back because I proved myself right. I had various tracking numbers along with a slew of emails from the lady stating she had received it and was happy (she even left me good feedback)
During the second precess (the 75 days) which was settled today, they had made their decision. I GET NOTHING! Just a quick 2 lined email saying “Despite our best efforts, the buyer’s credit card company has declined our dispute.”
YAY, I get to now sit back like an idiot and pretend my PS3 was stolen from my living room (cause thats basically the same thing)
So the moral of the story is, anyone can steal a credit and buy something from you on eBay, and once the card company catches on, its you who will get screwed, and there is nothing you can do at that point.
So sellers be warned, be wary and accepting credit cards, only ship to confirmed addresses (duh) and when selling high priced items, go for an instant bank transfer and not a card payment.
Sometimes you cant control these things, like when selling Buy it Now, and paypal even says “Plan these disputes in your business plan”..lol
So thats it, im feeling pretty raped right now so thanks for listening to my rant 
February 10th, 2009 at 11:25 pm
Dude that really blows. Nice old lady that steals credit cards and buys PS3s?
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February 12th, 2009 at 11:37 am
damn, that sucks. were you able to contact the lady about this?? what did she have to say about it?? seeing as how her card was never credited the least she could do is resend the payment… you would think.
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Kyle Robinson Reply:
February 12th, 2009 at 10:21 pm
The “nice” lady is the one who used a stolen card to buy the PS3, she was a crook
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February 12th, 2009 at 6:47 pm
No I think the real moral of the story is…don’t sell to people from Vegas…
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February 13th, 2009 at 1:14 pm
Yep, in portecting buyers eBay/Paypal have created a total flip-flop where it is incredibly easy to defraud sellers. Have had a couple of credit card chargebacks against me and they are pretty annoying.
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February 14th, 2009 at 5:14 pm
This happen to me awhile back. I think it’s you responsibility to ship it to the address that is listed on the paypal account . Fuck, it might not even be a old lady…You got to be more careful man. Fuck paypal for not covering you. I give a fuck about 2nd party, when it come down to big payment.
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Kyle Robinson Reply:
February 14th, 2009 at 10:18 pm
I did ship the address on the paypal account invoice…. I did everything I was suppose to do
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Unknown Reply:
February 15th, 2009 at 7:17 am
Make sure you call your bank and tell them to block paypal from digging to your account..cause it happen to me ..yep paypal dig in my bank account and took my money. If you ship it to the right address paypal should cover you..well for the most part.
1, You ship it to the address that is listen with the buyer
2. The buyer was verified? (was she or he?)
3. You have nothing to do with the so-call stolen card
If it make you feel better i’m going to place a bid on your deadpool. Maybe that will help your bills. Oh yeah fuck paypal , again this is another reason why people dislike paypal.
File a police report and fax that to paypal. Sometime you have to play hard ball with them asshole at paypal. When you call paypal ask for a supervisor. Expend to them what the hell is going on. What the fuck paypal is going to do? You did your part. They can’t do shit. You know you was right in this case.
Fuck!! if i was you i would come down to paypal headquarter and hump all the lady there lol then kick everyone ass ..with my deadpool outfit…yeah…okkkkkkkk peace man.
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February 19th, 2009 at 1:31 am
Kyle, I feel bad about that for you! That really is a low life bitch or bastard that does stuff like that to people. They will get theirs in the end. I got ripped off a few times on Ebay myself. Buying someting and never getting it. Maybe something good will come of it in the long run for you.
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Kyle Robinson Reply:
February 19th, 2009 at 1:44 am
Thanks freddie
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February 21st, 2009 at 1:54 am
If you have her address you should contact the local police in her city. They should investigate the claim for you… and you should be able to get your money or your PS3 back.
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Kyle Robinson Reply:
February 21st, 2009 at 7:29 am
I thought of this, BUT, her city happens to be las vegas, and I know fro, living there they can give a shit about shit like this… I am also willing to try all angles, so I will try, THANKS
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Anonymous Reply:
February 22nd, 2009 at 10:12 pm
Wow, check this out:
http://www.onlinemerchantnetwork.com/inform/board/message?board.id=SecurityAndFraud&thread.id=1163
Sound familiar?
If the LV police won’t do anything, try contacting an attorney out there? Or possibly filing for a Federal case, since this constitutes mail fraud – since you shipped it – and that falls under Federal jurisdiction.
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February 21st, 2009 at 10:04 am
Here’s the L.A.P.D Website.
http://www.lapdonline.org/
Contact
http://www.lapdonline.org/contact_us
Don’t pass out on this man. Nail this s.o.b and get your money and ps3 back. I’m sick of these kind of people. Just remember this. If you didn’t do the crime you wont do the time. Give us an update if you can. By the way deadpool is up $176 now YEAH!!! BID PEOPLE !! BID!!! I hope I win .
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March 7th, 2009 at 5:58 am
i feel ur pain man.
about two moths ago,
I sold this item on ebay and sure enough the winner paid me thru paypal.
and now i just found out that the seller isn’t verified. so they took my money back.
i don’t know what the deal with ebay and paypal is this is getttting old.
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